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                        <title>RE: No success on first connexion</title>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2025 09:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Please read my previouse post.]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please read my previouse post.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: No success on first connexion</title>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2025 07:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Ok, I have not a lot of knowledge on LS, Which one is damaged for you ? The &quot;Close&quot; or the &quot;Open&quot; one?]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, I have not a lot of knowledge on LS, Which one is damaged for you ? The "Close" or the "Open" one?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: No success on first connexion</title>
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                        <pubDate>Thu, 23 Jan 2025 15:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I think that Close Limit Switch is broken.]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that Close Limit Switch is broken.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: No success on first connexion</title>
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                        <pubDate>Thu, 23 Jan 2025 14:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Limit switch troubleshooting:
I found this reading with my Metrix:
A: Open limit switch in rest position:
Wire 1 (Green) and 2 (Brown): closed
Wire 3 (White) and 4 (Yellow ): open
 
B:...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Limit switch troubleshooting:</p>
<p>I found this reading with my Metrix:</p>
<p>A: <strong>Open</strong> limit switch in <strong>rest</strong> position:</p>
<p>Wire 1 (Green) and 2 (Brown): closed</p>
<p>Wire 3 (White) and 4 (Yellow ): open</p>
<p> </p>
<p>B: <strong>Open</strong> limit switch in <strong>Activated</strong> position:</p>
<p>Wire 1 (Green) and 2 (Brown): open</p>
<p>Wire 3 (White) and 4 (Yellow ): closed</p>
<p> </p>
<p>C: <strong>Close</strong> limit switch in <strong>rest</strong> position:</p>
<p>Wire 1 (Green) and 2 (Brown): closed</p>
<p>Wire 3 (White) and 4 (Yellow ): closed</p>
<p> </p>
<p>D: <strong>Close</strong> limit switch in <strong>Activated </strong>position:</p>
<p>Wire 1 (Green) and 2 (Brown): open</p>
<p>Wire 3 (White) and 4 (Yellow ): closed</p>
<p> </p>
<p>As You can see, there is a difference for wire 3 and 4 between the Open and the Close limit switch:</p>
<p>For the Open limit switch, the 3 and 4 wires are changing status from open in rest, to closed when activated</p>
<p>For the Close limit switch, the 3 and 4 wires remains closed in either Rest or activated position</p>
<p> </p>
<p>I have no clue about the wiring sequence of course, but since the wires are exactly the same colors, and connected to the same connectors on the limit switch, </p>
<p>Is this difference normal between the 2 Switches? Or is this indicating a problem on one of the 2 switches ? </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Just to remind you, At the moment:</p>
<p>The shutter motor is working only to close, not to open.</p>
<p>The Close limit switch is stopping the motor when activated, and showing its status on the Dome box screen in rest (not Lit) and activated (Lit). See picture below</p>
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<p>.</p>
<p>The Open limit switch does not show any status on the Screen in either rest or activated position</p>
<p>Please let me know</p>
<p>Regards</p>
<p> </p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: No success on first connexion</title>
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                        <pubDate>Thu, 23 Jan 2025 13:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I fully agree: &quot;pointless wiring&quot;, but that&#039;s what I found with my Metrix.
To make the measurements, I disconnected first the connector 12 inside the Shutter box, and made then the Metrix c...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fully agree: "pointless wiring", but that's what I found with my Metrix.</p>
<p>To make the measurements, I disconnected first the connector 12 inside the Shutter box, and made then the Metrix check. So it was not going through the inverter. And I agree as well about the big short circuit ! That's what I mentioned on 21 Jan when I said my differential circuit breaker triggered off-line. I was talking about this short circuit !</p>
<p>I found the wire U connected to the frame of the motor !</p>
<p>And every single V, W and PE connected to U, V and W together (probably through the Rotor windings of the motor, the inverter was disconnected and isolated from the measurements at this moment). This couldn't work, and was necessarily making a short circuit. </p>
<p>And finally, I disconnected all the wires on the motor side and checked the way of the connection: </p>
<p>I found (from the inverter to the motor):</p>
<p>U to V</p>
<p>V to W</p>
<p>W to PE</p>
<p>PE to U</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Now, I changed the wiring the way You said: </p>
<p><span>PE to PE</span><br /><span>U to U</span><br /><span>V to V</span><br /><span>W to W</span></p>
<p>The situation improved a lot:</p>
<p>First, I connected the PE wire from the Cog Rim to the shutter box, and no short circuit anymore, &#x1f44d; .</p>
<p>The motor is turning now (it never did before), when pressing "Close" on the shutter box (and it turns the correct direction). It also stops turning when I activate the LS Close switch. So that's all good.</p>
<p>When I activate the LS close switch (to simulate the shutter Door completely closed), I can also see the indication turning red on the screen (stating "Shutter closed" and the red pointer).</p>
<p>All good &#x1f44d; </p>
<p> </p>
<p>But I still have one problem left: The motor doesn't turn when I press "Open". I also see that the LS Open is not indicating anything on the screen (like the close switch that turn red when activated)</p>
<p>So I need to see if the LS Open switch is ok (Wiring 32). I checked the wiring from the 32 Pin connector (disconnected) inside the shutter box until the limit switch, that's ok &#x1f44d; </p>
<p>So It looks like, either the limit switch has a problem, or the wiring is wrong. i need to investigate on this now. </p>
<p>It's not easy to follow the wiring colors, since they are not always the same as the ones on the technical drawing of the boxes. So not easy to recognize a possible wiring mistake (Like for the motor). </p>
<p>Any help, suggestion on this ?</p>
<p> </p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: No success on first connexion</title>
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                        <pubDate>Thu, 23 Jan 2025 11:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Exactly the same thing was evident from your diagram - only that such connections are totally pointless - also not visible in the photo you sent. What you have drawn is one big short circuit...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly the same thing was evident from your diagram - only that such connections are totally pointless - also not visible in the photo you sent. What you have drawn is one big short circuit , which will most likely burn up the inverter.<br /><br />I suppose that you measured the connections with the inverter and motor connected, and instead of wires the meter showed you the resistance of the motor windings.</p>
<p>ps. you usually get answers the same or next day. Just check the dates on the forum.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: No success on first connexion</title>
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                        <pubDate>Thu, 23 Jan 2025 07:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[My diagram is completely unreadable? 
Ok, let me put this way:
U to PE
V to U, V, W
W to U, V, W
PE to U, V, W
Is that more readable?
I paid your plug and pay kit over 3000€ and found...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My diagram is completely unreadable? </p>
<p>Ok, let me put this way:</p>
<p>U to PE</p>
<p>V to U, V, W</p>
<p>W to U, V, W</p>
<p>PE to U, V, W</p>
<p>Is that more readable?</p>
<p>I paid your plug and pay kit over 3000€ and found a Motor wiring which could have killed me (U to PE amongst other....)</p>
<p>I'm very disappointed the way you treat your customers; I need about 2 days to get answers, sometimes very straight forward answers like: "<span>look on Card Manual page 7.", no more description of the pairing procedure, find out yourself...</span></p>
<p>And now a complete wrong and dangerous wiring, and a simple "unreadable diagram" as an answer? I spent 4 hours to make this troubleshoot and the drawing..</p>
<p>I believe my drawing is very clear, but find your service and after sale very poor.</p>
<p>I will proceed with the change of the Wiring, and hope it's gonna work now.</p>
<p>Regards</p>
<p> </p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: No success on first connexion</title>
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                        <pubDate>Wed, 22 Jan 2025 13:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Your diagram is completely unreadable. It is difficult to understand it.The motor should be connected to the inverter this way:PE to PEU to UV to VW to WIf the flap will open instead of clos...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your diagram is completely unreadable. It is difficult to understand it.<br />The motor should be connected to the inverter this way:<br /><br />PE to PE<br />U to U<br />V to V<br />W to W<br /><br />If the flap will open instead of closing - simply swap the U and W wires on the motor.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: No success on first connexion</title>
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 21 Jan 2025 19:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Ok, I believe I found the problem:
When connecting the PE wire coming from the Cog Rim, My Differential circuit breaker is triggered. 
If I disconnect the PE wire from the Cog Rim, it work...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, I believe I found the problem:</p>
<p>When connecting the PE wire coming from the Cog Rim, My Differential circuit breaker is triggered. </p>
<p>If I disconnect the PE wire from the Cog Rim, it works, and I have power to the shutter motor, and the 3 power outlets. </p>
<p>So the PE wire is creating a short circuit. </p>
<p>Since I cannot get the shutter motor to work, I suspected a problem on that motor.</p>
<p>I opened the junction box of the motor. There are 4 wires. I checked the black wire, which is screwed onto the metallic Motor frame, with the PE wire from the Cog Rim, and was surprised to find this wire not connected.</p>
<p>I opened the shutter box and checked the wires from the connector 12 (the one going to the motor). </p>
<p>Here is a drawing of what I found (see attached pdf)</p>
<p>As you can see, the red wire, connected to the U of the Inverter, is connected to the Metallic Motor frame. (Black wire on the picture screwed onto the Motor frame)</p>
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<p> </p>
<p>The Ground Wire from the Inverter is connected to U, V and W on the Motor Connection box.</p>
<p>It cannot be to have a ground wire connected to the 3 Phase (U, V and W) ?  </p>
<p>And it cannot be to have U connected to the Motor metallic frame? </p>
<p>Please let me know.</p>
<p> </p>
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                        <title>RE: No success on first connexion</title>
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 21 Jan 2025 12:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[It display 230V sensor input status - it have nothing to shutter motor.]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It display 230V sensor input status - it have nothing to shutter motor.</p>
<p></p>
<p>The "Slave" 230v is not ticked. Is that telling me I have no AC delivered to the motor?</p>
<p></p>
<p> </p>]]></content:encoded>
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